yeah yeah am i would i be right to say that the process is a big part of what you do

Yeah.

Do you have kind of like systems? No, that's the funny thing is I feel like I mean, I have a way of working, but then the system is always like improvisational, I guess.

so um yeah like I work with the shape of the space so like usually square panels and then layer lots of color till I find the color that's resonates in some way like you know like feels like a scent or feels like a flower has some sort of I have an attachment to it somehow.

And then I work with lines and then the lines are never the same.

It's like a double zero brush.

Damn.

Yeah.