Megan Smith

And she's been on the payroll for places like Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and other corporate media places.

Not only that, she was married to Megan Smith, who served in the Obama administration.

So I'm trying to form the woke credentials that she has.

This lady is farthest left as you can get in our society.

Okay.

So if there were a, a Megan Smith test for AI, what would its c- what would the criteria be?

You know, I would probably crowdsource that-

Ah, good, yeah

I-i-it itself didn't succeed at bringing these technologies to the world, although the people, you know, Andy at Android, um, o-others at Apple with the iPod and iPhone and, and the Apple Watch, you in, in the government.

And so the people have done-- gone on and done amazing things.

Um, this is a, I, I probably can say, younger Megan Smith.

Um, and, uh, there's this fascinating part in the movie when you're explaining the prototypes.

He was the, he was our punk.

He was our, [laughs] you know, he was our baby with Megan Smith, who became the Ch- Chief Technology Officer of the United States of America, working for President Barack Obama.

Wow.

Who would've known? Uh, she was, she, you know, was our baby, and Tony was our baby, and they, uh, they were...

This was an interview that happened at General Magic.

Most of the clip was about Megan Smith, who was a hardware person, brilliant, ended up like an important person in Washington, D.C., I think, in the Obama administration.

I have to say, of the people at General Magic, there were so many who were so wonderful to work with.

But Rama said nice things, and he found value in some of the things I had said.

I'm like, no. I'm just too much of a...

Because I think you and Megan are at MIT.

Megan Smith are at MIT together, right? You're both fellows there now.

And her experience in government was, how do we bring technology to the people and benefit them? And I just wondered if that was something that might catch your

imagination.