Megan Davis

And look, I'm just going to squeeze in with an event which is on Wednesday next week.

Professor Megan Davis, who's truly a leader for all of us and one of our great public intellectuals, she's going to deliver the Productivity Commission's MoCAC Oration at the National Library.

Her talk's entitled The Schism, Aboriginal Self-Determination at the Crossroads.

So I'd really love you to come along to that.

I don't know why they're doing it.

And Professor Megan Davis, who was the one who was really trying to push the voice.

I mean, it was her idea.

Until we get real and understand that we need to step in and do what Abbott was going to do, you know, and I think this is where we needed to really say this is not working, we cannot... worry about being called, you know, stolen generation people, that we've got to actually say we need to change the whole culture there and step right in.

I was an activist in the Darwin community, and that's how I ended up at Uluru.

And I think, uh, you know, people like Professor Megan Davis and Aunty Pat Anderson and Noel Pearson in particular, I think they saw something in me when I spoke up at the conventions leading up to that, uh, the dialogues.

And, uh, and then I was, at the convention at Uluru, I was basically thrust onto the stage at the very last moment and gave a speech, you know, to try and inspire everybody to, to endorse the statement when it was read for the first time.

But tumultuous because then there was that great, exciting moment and then, you know, coming from Darwin, small-time politics really here locally, to discovering what it's like nationally, uh, you know, the, uh, the points of contention amongst our own people, you know.