MC5

And I think I felt differently than that at the time that I heard that many years ago.

But this album is just a very, very good example I mean, knowing that Kick Out the Jams by the MC5 is one of my top all-time albums, of course, my approach to heavier rock being recorded live is a very positive one.

But yeah, the studio records from...

this band or by this band are, are great, but damn, this, this is just like, yep.

But punk rock to me is the next youth movement that happens.

So the bands in between there, right, are like, you know, the MC5 who were hippies, but like Iggy and the Stooges and then the Velvet Underground and some of those bands that I...

I've heard the band say, and it's quite obvious, that really were influential on them.

But what other bands can you remember the guys going out to see or that you went out to see with them pre-Ramones? Yeah, well, here's the whole thing that was

We used to go see Alice Cooper, Iggy at schools, school gymnasiums.

MC5? Yeah.

Yep.

MC5, Bob Seger.

We'd see them all.

We'd see them all at these small places.

I'm not saying the music was shit, but there was really good stuff happening.

But in Detroit, in Detroit, you got the Stooges legacy, the MC5 legacy.

Of course, you got the Motown legacy.

But Motown... you know, was so fundamental to changing the music game, but it was very, yeah, no, it was, it was.

Detroit is all rubble.

And what seems to come out of that is not a sound that kind of harkens back to Motown.

It is all these bands that create the scene that sound like the Stooges or the MC5.

And it's just this loud, aggressive, hard music that... seems to be the one that that wins the race

My first guitar teacher was Dan Earlywine, who was the guitar player in the Prime Movers.

So you caught plenty of MC5 and Psychedelic Stooges shows later on.

Yeah, later when I was

in

What are your memories of some of those?

Oh, God.

Well, the MC5 was...

so high energy i mean it sounds like a cliche to say high energy but they really were high energy it was just tons of energy coming off the stage and they were sort of loosely choreographed you know sort of like james brown's backup singers how they they would dance but but in a really loose way which is so so cool and they had that going on too and so there was all this movement on the stage incredibly loud well finally crafted rock and roll music come you know coming out of the amplifiers and uh just exciting excitement from start to finish cmc5 and the stooges was more of a novelty at for at first you know the the psychedelic stooges what you never knew what you were going to get you know scotty used to not have a drum kit he used to bang on a 44 gallon oil drum with a steel pipe in the, and they had put a installed a pickup into it and put it through an amplifier and they just do noise and, and more performance art than anything.

Which I haven't listened to, but there we go.

The other two I'll note is the MC5 had 53 years between high time and heavy lifting, and the Sonics had 48 years between introducing the Sonics and This Is The Sonics.

So I had a great time sort of investigating that.

Good research there.