Mbuyiseli Madlanga

And it took us a while to get there.

So Madlanga happens and then he goes on.

So the legislation requires that if any allegations have been brought against any of the senior managers, we've got seven days to take those allegations to council.

So after he was done at Madlanga, we're obviously obligated to write a report to council and say, listen, we need to do something about this.

Can you suspend him while we do the investigation? Council agrees with both.

We put him on suspension and then we start the investigation.

I

was at a, yesterday we were at Gibbs and the conversation was very spirited around where to from here, South Africa, the era of the Madlanga Commission.

And you made this point similarly as well, but There was a brief moment where the idea of an international court on corruption was brought up, but I don't think it was fleshed out enough.

Well, there is a draft treaty for it being drawn up by Richard Goldstone, the retired judge here, and others who are eminent jurists from countries in Africa, Europe, Canada is involved, and so on.

And I think you're right that the center parties across the world, in a sense, opened the door to the kind of problems and right-wing leaders that we've got in the present time.

I lied earlier when I said that was my last question.

I have to ask you though, current events in South Africa relating around the Madlanga Commission, I'm sure you've heard about it.

Yesterday, there was a lot of conversation around the Madlanga Commission and the press conference of Lieutenant General Antlam Gwanazi where It was pretty much opened up that South Africa's police and crime intelligence has been taken over by criminal syndicates, private interests, exerting huge influence over police investigations and interfering with how policing works in our country.

Hi, Mandy.

The so-called accountability as a result of Madlanga is a gimmick.

Do you really think the ANC will allow the law to work properly? Thanks very much for those WhatsApp messages coming through.

Well, speaking about elections, we do, of course, have local government elections in November and suggestions that this is going to be key to boosting confidence for the rest of the year.

And now we've got news that he's been sacked from the police.

Certainly.

So we know that Feroz Khan has made multiple attempts to sort of evade testimony at the Madlanga Commission.

First, we heard that he was shot outside his Johannesburg home in Houghton.

This is one thing I want to say at the end of this.

The Madlanga streams are just massive.

Today, our court stream is massive.

Let me know if you want more live court cases.