It's so refreshing.

I am an actual

We're wondering if you were to hypothetically design a ship to steal a six million pound submarine off the bottom of the ocean in the 1970s, how you might go about doing that? I mean, you know,

I was raised on, like, Tom and Jerry and Roadrunner.

So, you know, I'm literally picturing, like, some sort of rope system with some elaborate knots that have been tied by a sailor.

And you put an edge around each of the sides of the hot dog, because I'm picturing it just looks like a hot dog.

And then you lift real hard.

I mean, would you agree with that? And if so, why?

Yeah, I think that the strongest, it's not even evidence, but like the strongest proof of that is how much we didn't know when we didn't have the instruments to record it.

So even the notion that bacteria can cause infections, right? If you go back historically, it's not to make a direct comparison.

It's to show that the paradigm that we are sitting in inevitably will shift.

as technology increases and as our hearts increase and as that sort of capacity to expand the conversation also increases.

But to say, you know, microwaves don't work because I can't see the microwaves.

Well, we know that that's not true and they work and they will heat your food or whatever else they do.

And then when she's tested precognition, she'll ask, do you love yourself? Do you love your day so far? Do you love the device you're doing this on? The more people say yes to those love questions, the better they do.

Just 30? You

know, I think, here's the thing.

I like to start with some positivity.

Yes.

I think we've come a long way.

Okay.

You know, when I think about, like, my mom, right, who got married in 1964.

Okay.

Is it the

Humpty Dance? It is not.

There's many artists that my children have turned me on to in this arena, but I'm selecting No Church in the Wild.

That is Jay-Z and Kanye, which, you know, I hope that's not too controversial to say.

But my children have gotten me into a lot of hip-hop and, in particular... a lot of the sort of combinations that many hip hop artists will do.

So you'll get, you know, Frank Ocean and you'll get The Weeknd and you'll get, you know, Kendrick and all these things.

But No Church in the Wild is one.

We end every interview by asking, what song are you currently obsessed with, Mayim?

Like, how do you-- how do you-- how do you bridge that gap?

Yeah, I mean, I, I think-- I mean, I think you've spoken to some of the greatest guests on your podcast, um, who are doing that.

You know, people like Thomas Campbell and people like Dr. Bruce Lipton, you know, these are sort of the, the people who are able to speak both languages.

And not as a, you know, a way to manipulate people or get them to believe something that isn't true, but w-we've, we've tried to divide, right, the mind and body.

I mean, in the most kind of simplistic sense.

We've tried to divide them, and science does many incredible things.

And, you know, if you have a bullet lodged in your body, chances are it's gonna need to be excised using the wisdom and the knowledge, right, of Western medicine.

... and thing- and things of the like?

[laughs]

And yes, psychiatrists can be, like, anything.

But generally speaking, what this part called for was a pretty square, you know, pretty straight, a little bit more nuanced, I think, than Amy Farrah Fowler.

But, like, we're kind of in that universe.

And the chips, they were inserted with magic.

... that there was maybe a, maybe a crack in the door that you might be walking through at some point, like a year from when you heard about it?

Um, I, I actually had a friendship with, with Kevin Sussman and John Rosbowie.

And I know Brian Posehn, I know Lauren, um, Lapkus.

Yes.

So I remember there was, like, buzz around that.

Um, but yeah, just, like, I remember technical things, you know, needing to be close, needing it to be a smooth motion so you're not giving it away.

Um, yeah, and I think I remember being nervous, 'cause, like, I knew it was coming.

So while I'm doing, you know, while, I remember thinking about it while I'm looking at Jim that, like, "Okay, this is coming up.

Prepare for that." So yeah, can, like, see the wheels turning for me.

Yeah.

But if you add your character's personality to it, words become a playground.

Yeah.

So you know, I, I knew, a- and also, like, I, like, I sort of knew who Chuck Lorre was.

But I just wasn't part of, like, TV watching culture of, like, knowing his trajectory.

And so, you know, I auditioned the way I auditioned for everything else, which is, like, do your best, feel like a piece of shit, know that you probably won't get it.

[laughs] That's, like, what happens.

And after the audition, like, my kids had, like, a scouting thing in the woods, and I literally, like, went to meet them in Griffith Park, like, right after my audition.

And I remember I was wearing, like, a friend of mine had taken me to shop, 'cause I had no normal person clothes.

Oh, gosh.

Did you feel, just because you brought up October 7th and speaking out about it, was there any part of you that hesitated before you did it? Sure, every

part of me.

There wasn't a part of me that did not hesitate.

In the same way, like, did you have that around other things, or was this a special...

Sorry, what I should say is that for years, people had been bothering me about going to Israel, being in Israel, death threats, curses.

That had been going on for years.

Since social media started, I began experiencing... threats, insults, trolls, all sorts of things.

now but yeah it is worse now oh yeah

What's it like to wake up in an empty house when you know you're a parent?

Um, it's- it's two things.

It's kind of a sadness, kind of a pull.

My son describes it as there's an invisible string, you know, that's, uh, uh, that's very, very long because wherever he is, I'm attached to him.

And then there's also an element of kind of like, I don't have to wake up, make a lunch, and get the kid on the bus by 7:00 in the morning.

So a little bit of relief as well.

... tell my wife, "I have to do this"

But, but what you're saying is that what you were able to do was establish rapport, establish trust, and this kind of connection without you actually having to reveal anything about yourself, so that if that's the relationship you need to establish out in the field, you haven't really given up anything of yourself.

Mm-hmm.

It's like there's, there's a supermarket, and different minyans, and you could go to this minyan, you can go to that minyan, and, like, there used to be a, a Carlebach minyan where they only do Carlebach melodies.

You know, like, it's like I spent, I've spent so much beautiful time there davening, and learning how to cook, and watching, you know, my aunt, and, you know, like, uh, just watching what traditional Orthodoxy looks like, right? Uh, that's part of my experience there.

And, you know, another part of my experience is one of my cousins once said that he was driving by and he was patrolling an area that, you know, was mixed as it were, and he saw a tiny child cowering behind a bush.

And the bush was not even very dense, so the boy, like, it was so clear that he could be seen by anyone, but his fear was such that he was trying to make himself so tiny.

And my cousin, who at the time was a soldier, said, like, it broke his heart.

Like, this is what me driving by makes this child do.

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If that's true right now, what, what's the warning? What's coming in the United, the way of the United States if we continue down this road?

There's a group of people who have, um, you know, perverted their own, you know, religion in many ways to attack people who are not like them.

And, um, I-You know, radical jihadist, um, individuals do not single out Jews.

Um, we are simply the first.

We're seen as kind of like the simplest, you know, first attack.

Um, but there's no fondness for Christians, you know.

Many of us, right, are infidels to a certain, you know, group of, of individuals.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, would you agree with that? And if so, why?

Yeah, I think that the strongest, it's not even evidence, but like the strongest proof of that is how much we didn't know when we didn't have the instruments to record it.

So even the notion that bacteria can cause infections, right? If you go back historically, it's not to make a direct comparison.

It's to show that the paradigm that we are sitting in inevitably will shift.

as technology increases and as our hearts increase and as that sort of capacity to expand the conversation also increases.

But to say, you know, microwaves don't work because I can't see the microwaves.

Well, we know that that's not true and they work and they will heat your food or whatever else they do.

And then when she's tested precognition, she'll ask, do you love yourself? Do you love your day so far? Do you love the device you're doing this on? The more people say yes to those love questions, the better they do.

Mm-hmm

... um, cancer.

She had tumors visible through her neck and chest.

She experienced a, a coma as a result of this organ failure, but she was in there the whole time.

She had an experience where she was presented with a set of information about how she got cancer and how she would heal from cancer.

And you might say, "This is a lovely bedtime story, Mayim.

Thank you and good night." Uh, what happened was when she woke up from her coma, she said, "I want you to stop all the treatments." And the doctors said, "What, what are you talking about? You just basically died." And she said, "I'm gonna get better." And they said, "That's crazy." And I'll give you the long story short, her tumors started shrinking, and she was discharged in two weeks.

... or, like, a more real version of faith for you that might be outside of the bounds of what you were raised with?

Mm-hmm

... um, cancer.

She had tumors visible through her neck and chest.

She experienced a, a coma as a result of this organ failure, but she was in there the whole time.

She had an experience where she was presented with a set of information about how she got cancer and how she would heal from cancer.

And you might say, "This is a lovely bedtime story, Mayim.

Thank you, and good night." Uh, what happened was, when she woke up from her coma, she said, "I want you to stop all the treatments." And the doctors said, "What, what are you talking about? You just basically died." And she said, "I'm gonna get better." And they said, "That's crazy." And I'll give you the long story short.Her tumor started shrinking, and she was discharged in two weeks.

... or, like, a more real version of faith for you that might be outside of the bounds of what you were raised with?

How would you teach differently? How should we be teaching STEM stuff differently?

Well, so it actually leads into how I got interested in science.

I had a female tutor when I was 15 years old on the set of Blossom.

She was at that time 19.

She was a dental undergrad at UCLA, and she came from a prominent Persian Jewish immigrant family.

And she came from a family of girls where they were all encouraged to do science or math or be doctors or be dentists.

And this was the first time that I heard a person and a woman yet talk about science as if it were poetry.

it's not an autobiography, but it