Max Schrems

I didn't quite understand the first time.

[laughs] Partially for all of this, I blame, um, Shrems.

I think it was Shrems that did the whole cookie thing and said cookies.

Yeah.

You know, the reason we're now accepting cookies on every website, definitely in Europe, is, um, because of, like, a campaign for, like, privacy transparency.

Yeah, exactly.

It's the Cloud Act and Schrems and all of these different things.

Perhaps you

can explain it very briefly, what that

So even if the data center in Europe, it's still have to oblige by American law.

Exactly.

And there have been these agreements before and they have all been invalid because someone called Max Schrems, he decided to test this.

So he forced a verdict on like, if this comes along and I need to make sure that no one else has looked at this data, can you actually say that it's safe? And each time there's been two different verdicts, and both of them have then voided that agreement called Schrems 1 and Schrems 2, and there probably will be Schrems 3.

The problem with cookies, right? I mean, it was great.

Shrems, I think, did that, took it to court, brought that in.

And it's great that we now have to accept it, but it's meaningless, right? Because no one knows what they're accepting or not accepting.

No one understands what a cookie is.

such as standard contractual clauses, binding corporate rules, or other approved mechanisms under the GDPR.

Additionally, following the Schrems II decision by the Court of Justice of the EU, organizations must also assess the legal framework and surveillance practices of the country to ensure that transfer data remain protected.

at a level essentially equivalent to that in the EU.

Your survey indicates that over half of legal professionals are using CHGPT, but only 20% have received AI-specific trainings.

I would imagine that the 150 quid to you and me is probably the equivalent of 400 million for Google.

Well, do you know what? Like, I think I bring up this example quite a bit, but it goes back to when I was interviewing Max Schrems.

I was like, okay, Do you think, you know, big tech will bring its policies and practices into a line with the EU or will they just keep paying the fines? And he said, for as long as the revenue exceeds the value of the fine, they'll eat the fine.

that sort of

So there's an NGO called NOYB.

It's a Max Schrems-run organisation.

Max Schrems, people will know, was a data privacy champion in Europe.

He took a case against...