Max Biaggi

Which, yeah, which speaking...

And we do know how much they love to do that, given Max Biaggi's comments at the end of last year, which are still my favorite thing of him saying that, "Well, Aprilia's the only real Italian manufacturer," 'cause Ducati's owned by Germans.

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Oh my God.

... it's always...

It's not always thing.

90% of the thing, it's like whenever I met any of the MotoGP riders, I was like, "Oh my gosh, they're tiny," [laughs] um, because, like, they're the same height as me, and I think Max Biaggi's [laughs] actually shorter, so I'm just like, "Oh, it's this little Italian guy.

Like, aw, you're small." [laughs] I feel like a giant.

How many past world championships, champions have you met? I've met a fair few from motocross, road racing, all sorts.

And to be honest, have you been a bit let down when you've met one? I met Max Biaggi.

I thought he was a bit of a cockwomble.

Great ride, epic, but just not very nice.

but putting the arm up mid-corner after passing, I just y- I, I can't stress that enough how fucking cool that is.

Yeah, it's a bit, um, it's like when, the OGs will know this, Valentino Rossi got elbowed out by Max Biaggi in Suzuka 2001.

'01, yep.

Goes around the outside of him, the right-hand arc, and gives him the bird.

And people love watching riders come through like your Fermin Eldegares, David Alonso's.

People loved Rossi when he was in the 125s, Marc Marquez, Max Biaggi.

Like there's all these names and it's because of the lower classes.

You'd be crazy if you're turning a blind eye to that.