so many different possible oversight authorities, and we're seeing everybody approaching the regulation of robo-taxis with all these different flavors, how as an association are you approaching that kind of challenge of you maybe want to regulate robo-taxis, how maybe we do it to have some level of uniformity across all this different level of authority?

Yeah, that's a great question.

And it goes into just the overarching issue of governance, which has kind of dogged the transportation and mobility industry for years.

I mean, you have so many agencies doing different things, not just in my world, but in general.

And it's not like a transportation czar in cities and states where there's one person in charge that the governor or the mayor appoints that is doing everything at sea.

even in New York, for instance, where I'm from, we got the MTA, we got the mayor not having much of a say in what happens with the subway system.

He's got maybe a couple of votes on the board.

What do you hear from the regulators in terms of the public sentiment in terms of adoption, use, comfortability, getting into the, whether it's the shared shuttle or the Waymo?