I have a problem with all that, you know?

Well, you know, yesterday I was with a lady who we both knew, a woman in London who had worked for Mohamed Fayyad.

She was his chief of operations of his Park Lane apartment building and was also very involved with his brother in Connecticut, Ali Al-Fayyad, or Fayyad as they should be called.

They're not Al at all.

And she's died, and, you know, she knew where all the bodies were buried, of course.

Oh, my God.

She was very well rewarded, and I've been talking with a lot of people to do with the Fayette thing, because Fayette and Epstein, there is a minor connection to do with Saint-Tropez and...

Can you remind us what it is?

me throw it to you this then so if we're gonna if if we imagine the tinfoil hat conspiracy reaction i would feel like it would be more in the papers then like we would have seen more about it if it had been an insight or a conspiratorial uh sympathy gouge i've not heard nothing i mean nothing about this until paula mentioned it today so

it's not really attracted very much interest um You know, maybe people would think that the media might say, well, you know, if we do publish this, we make people feel sorry for him.

And, you know, that's perhaps why they chose not to do it.

They don't want people feeling sorry for him because they're outraged at him and they don't want to contradict themselves.

I do think that this individual, you know, had searched for information on the Princess of Wales and her children.

And they are seriously protective people.

It'd be very, very hard for anyone to get to them.

does he's been doing what a lot of he's done a couple of podcasts right and i feel like he's very much trying to re-establish his personality with through new media as opposed to being through traditional media and i feel like it's foreshadowing for a

Mm.

And she did have connections with all sorts of people from all sorts of walks of life, and as a result, you know, she would've found out information.

I, I'm continually shocked by the information I learn from people.

You know, last week I, I spent some time with somebody who'd just got out of prison, and the things they told me about what they learnt in prison from other prisoners.

You know, every o- every prisoner that you talk to claims to be innocent.

He beli- he believed about 20% [laughs] of those who he chatted with, and he had a legal brain, um, were actually innocent.

But what he said that was fascinating is most of those people who wou- were saying they were innocent of certain crimes were als- th- that they claimed to be innocent of, were actually guilty of other cr- crimes.

Mm.

they were definitely out there trying to

recruit.

There were references to how girls were too old for Epstein, etc, etc.

So he knew full well what he was up to, this character with him.

But he was interviewed by CNN, Katie Polglase, I don't know how you pronounce her name, recently.

I don't know the date of it.

But he commented, my work with him has been strictly professional.

their dirty

Well, many of the viewers, Matthew, are asking if that's the case about the car, if you think that he is a patsy.

Well, that is something I've had multiple messages about.

Lots of people have written to me in this regard.

Because I did put up a poll because I was coming on here.

You know, I said, was Anne Widdicombe in a burglary gone wrong or were Dualka forces at work? Was this a Charlie Kirk style slaying? Was it orchestrated by the far left or the far right? Or was the killer a lone nutcase? Now...

In my little unrepresentative poll, 57.1% out of 56 people who voted in this little poll before I did this program went for the far left.

They very much believe this.

So what's the backstory with Jill Dando?

Give life some juice.

Well, Jeremy Bamber is a man who is in prison for having murdered his entire family.

He was adopted.

His birth father, his father prior to his adoption was somebody who worked at Buckingham Palace.

And he'd had a relationship with a lady who worked there and they didn't want this child.

They subsequently married, which I think it's bizarre that they got to be happy and he didn't.

And well, he was happy with his family if you believe him.

Well,

The mother?

Now...

Yes, this was K- Dr. Kate McCann would not answer the questions, and they viewed the Portuguese police to be Third World.

They didn't like their cadaver dogs.

The cadaver dogs were actually British.

The d- the dogs did sense death in a cupboard in the apartment.

The dogs did sense death in a hire car that they hired later, but none of this...

Mm.

... w- what, what? [laughs]

He went to, um, the Sandringham Horse Trials to watch, um, the Sophie Wessex, the Duchess of Edinburgh, um, carriage driving.

And, um, he wasn't actually photographed watching it.

It was, he was photographed in a car leaving it.

I'm very surprised that other people present haven't taken pictures that have been leaked, but, um, it seems somehow he managed to evade that happening.

So did he sit in the shadows quietly, or, or was he sitting in his car the whole time? I don't know.

I don't know how he could avoid having just one, m- managing just to get one photo taken.

... because anyone else with these kind of allegations wouldn't be hobnobbing around with, uh, uh, billionaires, uh, you know, who are gonna welcome him to their country.

And I do think the book that Kate McCann wrote, it does show their character in that they seem to talk more about what happened afterwards and their fame they experienced.

And they seem to rather like the going to Downing Street for parties with Holly Valance, you know, the Neighbours actress and Nick Candy.

And they're all in these pictures and it's here, there and everywhere.

Their life has changed for the worse because they don't have their child, and I feel sorry for them in that.

And I do think it's terrible that they have had harassment with people turning up on their doorsteps, particularly this mad girl called Julia Wandell.

Yeah.

And, of course, our friend Sean Atwood has featured Julia Wandell.

Julia Wandell has claimed to be three other people before she claimed to be Madeleine McCann.

Okay.

In that regard, there is l- there are lots of allegations there that this all happened at a prev- prior.

But, um, with regard to the night, they went off for dinner at around 8:30, and they...

the place was checked, I think nine...

The, the 9:30 sighting occurred.

The s- And then around about sort of 9:30 till 10, there was chaos and pandemonium.

You know, what's happened here, and was there a proper investigation of that period, and f- what could've been done, you know, and could they have... could something have happened in that period that could've changed what was, was done, you know.

... who's a- alleged to have been the, uh-

Yeah.

Why would you, if you're running a care home...

Uh, one of the workers complained that, um, Miss Pickston had threatened to stab her in the eye.

Um, there were all sorts of allegations there, but Mr. Sullivan was involved in this business, and what I find particularly strange is that the BBC Panorama program chose not to talk about that angle at this stage.

Now, I believe the program was originally meant to be one hour.

It turned out to be half an hour.

I believe Mr. Sullivan, who has been w- w- for many years now, I've seen photographs of him emerging from police stations, particularly Loughton Police Station in Essex, and he has managed to get so many court orders, slap orders on the media to not report on this.

Right.

the boring answer is some horrible urchin just got in, killed her, hid the body.

Look, it was a resort for families.

If you were somebody who wanted to do this and you were a person like the people you mentioned from Germany, they...

They would naturally go to a place like that because there are children, and they probably realized that these silly parents were leaving their children unattended.

You wouldn't go to some school which has got lots of cameras all over it.

Holiday apartments are easier places to target because... people wouldn't ask as many questions because it's so transitional.

You've got different people coming for a week and then another lot of people.

Was it just a case of their connections, the McCann's connections, that made this the huge story that it was?

Well, for our American viewers, could you

explain who he is? Right.

So, well, David Sullivan is a billionaire.

He's worth about £1.2 billion.

He's a self-made man.

He was born in Penuff in Wales, near Cardiff.

He grew up on a council estate.

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That's interesting.

Um, but you know, they, the things that I found very strange also, and wrong, for example, um, when the fund was established to support them, they could, they claimed they couldn't work, but the mortgage of their house was paid for by the fund.

I think the little old lady who goes to the post office in Wales to pay her £5 to their fund did not wish to pay for their mortgage and, and their holidays and their trips here, there, and everywhere.

And I do think the book that the McCann, m- Kate McCann wrote, it does show-... their character in that they seem to talk more about what happened afterwards and their fame they experienced.

Oh.

She was encouraged by a, a crazy woman called Karen Spragg from Wales, who turned up at court in her Crocs, Karen in her Crocs, and she...

They, she actually had her flown to Bristol Airport, and they drove up there, and they started banging on the door, and they turn up at the vigils, 'cause the McCanns do have a lot of vigils for the daughter, which fair enough, they are religious people.

Um, that was something else the lady yesterday said to me.

Terms and conditions apply.

So Madeleine McCann, yes.

Madeleine McCann disappears, or whatever occurs, on the 3rd of May 2007 in a place called Praia da Luz in Portugal.

The apartment where she stayed was part of a Mark Warner resort.

The apartment, many people do not realize, did not just have a door into the resort.

It had a door onto a public road.

And the McCanns were a couple who were doctors.

It's really difficult to kind of, and I'm sure you probably agree, the morality of it, which a lot of people are outraged, why does this one family get so much attention on them with their missing child when all the other missing children don't get it? And at the same time, I guess you don't want to hold someone on a pedestal when the reality is that their daughter was killed.

So

Christian Bruckner comes onto the scene in this story first, really in 2020, the first week of COVID.

And it is announced on the news that the German police have a suspect.

And this was a man who had lived in Praia da Luz.

He was a strange, strange man who lived in a camper van and he lived in his car.

And he had been convicted of many crimes of burglary.

And one of the allegations in this whole story is that someone like him was actually just trying to burgle the house and maybe something went wrong.

the

Yes.

Well, Epstein...

if you believe somebody called Jay Beecher, and Jay Beecher is somebody who works for effectively the Maxwell family.

He's been paid £80,000 by a man called Brian Basham, who is their spokesman for writing a book.

Jay Beecher and a lady called Jessica Reed Krauss, who's very much one of these MAGA influencers, they have a podcast where they talk about how Jeffrey Epstein was not what you call a PDF.

He was actually like Hugh Hefner.

And they compare him to Hugh Hefner, and he just liked a bit of fun and young girls.

And

So was that going to fall anyway due to the sheer number of scandals? Or did the books, perhaps, by Virginia Jeffrey and all that, did that bring them down?

Well, I think the release of Andrew Lowdy's book, entitled, certainly brought this to a head.

But for the last 30 years, Andrew has been a buffoon.

Andrew was It's a Royal Knockout, which was a contest which was held with a man called Stuart Hall, who was an ITV presenter who ended up going to prison for his naughty behavior.

I'm not sure what language you're allowed to use on your channel.

This man was a TV host, and he hosted a thing where all these royals dressed up in stupid costumes and did jousting and ridiculous things.

And it was organized by Prince Edward, who, weirdly, in this whole story, is coming out of it a lot better.

Why do you think an idiot like him was made trade envoy?

My

background, I was educated at London School of Economics.

I was involved in drinks companies with a man called Maurice Camber, who was an inventor who came up with...

the multiplex cinema, The Needle to Remove Cataracts, Sky Vodka, which he sold for about 1.2 billion.

We were involved with films with Harvey Weinstein.

We produced an animated movie with Glenn Close and Anne Hathaway and Jim Belushi about Little Red Riding Hood brought up to date.

And then

I got into writing later because I was involved in exposing corruption in charities that we'd personally been involved in funding with the former ambassador to America, Sir Christopher Mayer, and his wife, who ran a charity, which Sarah Ferguson was very involved with, as was Sherry Blair, as was Hillary Clinton.

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Epstein with his Zorro ranch, his Paris apartment, his New York mansion that he paid one pound for.

I had a lady at a dinner I did with Andrew Lowney.

She came along to speak on behalf of her client, who was Leslie Wexner.

And why was Leslie Wexner giving Epstein a house that at one point was valued at nearly 100 million? It sold for 50 million.

Who wants to own Epstein's house? It's Bad names with real estate tend to bring the price down.

And of course the islands were for sale for 125 million, they sold for something like 60 million.

So

The mother?

Now...

Yes, this was K- Dr. Kate McCann would not answer the questions.

And they viewed the Portuguese police to be third world.

They didn't like their cadaver dogs.

The cadaver dogs were actually British.

The d- the dogs did sense death in a cupboard in the apartment.

... who's a- alleged to have, uh, been-

And it looks like it's actually...

Well, we haven't got...

There are various police forces.

It went from four police forces to nine police forces.

There are investigations open into activities.

You know, why were these planes coming in and out of this country with young people on them? You know, 60 flights with people who didn't even have their name in the flight logs.

Where were the visas? Why were they allowed to land at Northolt, which is an RAF base? They were allowed into places where they shouldn't have been allowed to go because Prince Andrew demanded it, that Epstein's plane could be allowed to go there.

I want to get your opinion on whether you think Andrew will actually go to prison.

I think we are in a situation that is fast moving and changing.

I think the arrest of Andrew occurred very quickly because there must have been a risk of something happening.

I find it very strange that Andrew was arrested on his birthday.

Having been in situations with Metropolitan Police myself, when an arrest occurs in this kind of offence, Normally, it's made by appointment.

Normally, you go to the police station by appointment.

They decided to swoop at 8 a.m.

Yeah.

The one thing Britain has got right is we are starting to go after this.

They have gone after Mandel, so they have gone after Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor.

Why don't the Americans do this? But equally, why didn't we do it earlier? I spoke with Channel 4 News myself in 2020 about Ghislaine Maxwell being monitored in 1994 by the Met Police.

The Met Police did nothing.

A lady I knew Her home was used to do surveillance for two weeks in Ghislaine's former home in South Kensington, Stanhope Muse East.

And they were doing surveillance on what they considered an upmarket brothel.

who

became chief of the Met Police.

Yesterday, I had a lunch with a man called Bungalow Bill.

Bill is Bill Wiggins, known for having not much upstairs and a lot down below.

And he was the lover of Joan Collins.

And he's very much part of that world.

And he said, you know, I was involved in a charity dinner.

He turned up.

true that he doesn't drink or you're as sceptical as you are about the sweating?

I believe he doesn't drink.