Matthew Baldwin

And we're both joined by a man from Aldershot who once stopped at Cardiff Gate Services for a sandwich and has been telling everyone he's Welsh ever since.

It's Matthew Baldwin.

Baldo, how are you? Good to have you back.

We haven't done a pod in a while.

And that's the best we're going to get straight from Jason.

Yeah, and just as a corroborating witness on this, that it was never there, his brother, Matthew Baldwin, made a social media post some years ago, and he was unequivocal on the very same question.

He says, my brother never had a tattoo of the word evil on his hand or anywhere else.

So he made it very clear that Jason would never have done something like that on his hands.

And the report, Damien's subject description isn't even thorough because it does have a number of tattoos listed there.

Terry looks at it as, I was defending myself.

Pam Hicks' family looks at it as a cold-blooded murder.

But he does wind up shooting his brother-in-law in the stomach and winds up killing him.