Matt Siegel

So welcome everyone to the fourth in this series of dialogues with leading global thinkers who are all addressing issues of how humanity can evolve its consciousness to be future fit to live on this beautiful world of ours and this planet that we share with so many other life forms.

The first one was with Rupert Sheldrake, the second one with Mark Vernon, the third with Matt Siegel and the looking at the revolutionary ideas of alfred north whitehead one of the great most profound thinkers of the 20th century but today i'm really pleased to have jeremy lent with me uh the author of the web of meaning which you'll see behind me and his latest book that came out i think jeremy this year eco civilization that's right making a world that works for all and by all he doesn't just mean all of humanity but All life, all life to flourish.

It was published this year.

He's a major integrative thinker who has explored not only one of the systemic failures in our current systems, but the pathways that are pointing to and creating new forms for a post-metacrisis world.

I'm Anna Kusmer.

Matt Siegel's radio run was longer than most marriages.

From 1981 to 2022, he was Maddie in the Morning on KISS 108.

From 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. every weekday, Matty's voice piped through thousands of car radios, chattering and laughing about whatever.

I can't say I was like an everyday Maddie in the morning listener, but I definitely listened for years and years.

And I remember learning that you had been – that something had gone down where you had been maybe making fun of Demi Lovato for saying that she was non-binary and somehow that was some kind of incident that caused you to leave the air.

And as I've been reflecting back on this, I think, really? You know, the great Matt Siegel, Demi Lovato, like – Can you explain what happened there and why that was a point that sort of things changed for you?

Okay, so I was talking.