Matt Shakman

Yeah.

Um, so I, you know, I, and I also think, uh, kudos to Matt Shakman.

I think that's how you say his name.

His first feature film-

It is

...

Matt Shakman directed all of your favorite television.

Matt Shakman literally directed episodes of Mad Men, Game of Thrones, Six Feet Under, House, Psych, Billions, n- uh, The Boys, Succession, It's Always Sunny, The Good Wife, WandaVision.

Episode dos.

Matt Shakman did that first one.

[gasps] What was that?

The sleeping in the separate beds, that was a real thing.

Stay here.

Hmm.

I think in addition to the Olsens, Matt Shakman had a TV thing, too, when he was a kid.

I think he was, like, a sitcom star.

Yeah

... absolutely love, uh, the creative, a- a- a creative mind behind this show, and Agatha All Along as well, and then Matt Shakman, who just did an incredible job as her close collaborator as the, as the series director.

The production design, um, the special effects, uh, just everything together.

Do I have some notes for, like, what's happening outside of the Hex with S.W.O.R.D. and all of that? Like, is that my-

They hired a director and a m- head writer, and those two people were sort of in charge, or in the case of, like, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, it was, like, a handoff from one to another, and that was, like, very- Mm-hmm ... uh, dysfunctional.

Um, but like- They were like, "We don't do showrunners," because they didn't really wanna, like, empower anyone that much with the TV shows because it was still very much like this is all under the MCU dome.

And so I remember talking to Jac Schaeffer and Matt Shakman, um, you know, and, and Waldron and Kate Herron about Loki and stuff like that, and they'd talk, they would talk about this process where, um, eh- you know, and we'll talk about this a bit when we talk about, like, Darcy and, and Jimmy and the way that they're used in this episode, where basically, like, uh...

Here was the description.

Who directed your episode? I'm trying to-

Matt Shakman.

Oh, Matt Shakman.

Right.

So Matt Shakman, as we know, turned out to be Matt Shakman, who's like, you know-

I knew this

... well, he was a genius back then, uh, and we all knew it, but obviously his career exploded into this crazy Game of Thrones and WandaVision and like-

He did six episodes of our show.

They were stupid.

And then they lost Matt Shakman, who went on to direct Fantastic-

Went to do Fantastic 4.

Yeah.

I think it's awesome just to see that ki- kind of connection there.

Yeah.

Um, Matt Shakman dir-

Hugh-

... you would just see the lines that you were saying.

And so in, uh, the first time I found out what the show really was, like, all of the individual episodes, was the, um, the director, Matt Shakman, he, I asked him, and he's like, "Okay, now I can tell you, like, what's..." 'Cause they were so concerned about leaks and stuff-

Oh, yeah

... that he had to personally, like, face-to-face me and tell me.