Matt Nelson

Because I think their relationship is a real thing.

Here's where a danger remains though, Matt, and that is that even social behaviors of different species can be harmful.

So I have had a long association with Wolfpark in Indiana, where they have been hand-rearing wolves since 1974, and they have the most beautiful hand-reared animals who have a strong emotional connection to their human caregivers and will extend that to strangers as well.

Mm.

Negative.

Negative four.

Final score is Matt eight points, Jess four.

I got four points?