Like, if we were to bring it right down to human level in the home, parenting, families, how do you get that right, that healthy habit towards, those healthy habits and attitude towards food rather than creating anxiety or, like you say, control or an obsession around it?

Yeah, I think so.

Ideally...

Yeah, 100%, 100%.

And you don't want to like, you know, I have friends now whose parents had them doing, you know, crash diets when they were younger.

And that's like, they've set them up for a lifetime of difficulties, right? You shouldn't have that.

You should not have that mindset as a child.

than me because you're much taller than I am.

Tell us

Uh, so it is, I think in this, uh, particularly now, I would say maybe the majority of people would like to get in at least slightly better shape, right? But I think a lot of people have either tried and failed, or they don't know where to begin.

And so the book is just literally a step-by-step guide.

I tell, I tell ...

Regardless of your situation, your background, your level of experience, your goals, whether you have kids, a busy life, whatever it is, I will tell you exactly what to do step by step in the gym, whether it's at home, your diet, what to eat, every single thing.

I get rid of all of the misconceptions, 'cause there are so many mis- c- there's so much, you know, misleading stuff out there in the fitness world, and I just make it as, you know, as simple and as, uh, a- accessible as possible.

The, the sort of, the fundamental is exactly the same as they always have been, but almost with social media, almost that, that whole noise is so different now.

Yeah, yeah.

What's your approach to the long form content now? Are you giving it like as much thought as you were or is it you kind of now have a team who's helping you with that?

the planning and the I mean a team so like my team is basically me Fab and Sears like and Ben my brother as well like Sears is like a big she's the big kind of ideas man Fab like I said produces and he's also massively across because that's a good thing with if you have people that are helping you with your content particularly like the editing and the videography you typically or you can get people that are good at the objective skill but maybe don't fully understand what it is and what age you mean whereas fabs he's been he's done content himself for years and years so i think that makes a big difference when someone not only is good at doing it but they understand you know what works and you know the difference between youtube and other platforms and stuff um Yeah, I think, like you said, things are going pretty well now.

When Gladiator started, this is going back almost four years, I was ready just to bin it off.

I was, you know what, I'm done with YouTube.

I didn't film for a few months.

I was at that point, I was honestly, I was like, I'm done.

I'm happy just to leave this now.

yeah yeah i guess you don't really get the good the benefit of where you live you're kind of like you're not like in the in the middle of the city like it's pretty chill like you don't have to deal with that and then obviously you're you're probably spending quite a bit of time at home because you have the home gym and everything's all like set up so you don't have to go out and about in public like you used to yeah

Who's speaking?

Yeah, it's, uh, Josh Widdicombe and Rob Beckett.

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You played your thing, and then I just clicked on the phone number.

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