My wife, I was reading the article, and we were watching it on TV, and she said, is this big enough to sink the Clippers? And I said, I don't think they need much help.

That's very clever of her.

That's very funny.

Would it sink that clipper ship? That's right.

Yes.

So there's two things, right? One, this happened in Minnesota in 2000.

They got busted for doing an under the table deal with this guy, Joe Smith, who was a former number one pick.

Right, because wealthy people have a tendency, and it works 99.9% of the time, whenever they're in trouble, they throw money at the situation, and this is not going to help him here.

uh decisions come down from the supreme court we got the world cup in town it's getaway week for fourth of july and it's taylor swift's wedding week and this was an also ran if you were if you if you're at uh san anita he would be listed as an also ran

well uh yeah i guess it's kind of a mid-card jobber of breaking news on uh june 30th so I think he did it.

Well, he had to do it today because it's the opening of free agency.

So like that, you know, really wasn't up to him as to whether or not, you know, how he could maximize this and make sure his name was, you know, in in the talk of our days above the fold.

Sure.

And I also think there was to some degree a, well, you can't fire me because I quit.

I think the writing was on the wall.

But that has to be the very first time that's ever happened in his life.

uh decisions come down from the supreme court we got the world cup in town it's getaway week for fourth of july and it's taylor swift's wedding week and this was an also ran if you were if you if you're at uh san anita he would be listed as an also ran

well uh yeah i guess it's kind of a mid-card jobber of breaking news on uh june 30th so I think he did it.

Well, he had to do it today because it's the opening of free agency.

So like that, you know, really wasn't up to him as to whether or not, you know, how he could maximize this and make sure his name was, you know, in in the talk of our days above the fold.

Sure.

And I also think there was, to some degree, a, well, you can't fire me because I quit.

I think the writing was on the wall.

But that has to be the very first time that's ever happened in his life.

Right now, at 41 years

old.

Yeah.

So that's why it's just, you know, modern advancements in modern medicine allow you to maybe compete a lot longer.

But I don't, you know, it's an interesting one.

It's been polarizing with the Lakers.

Really one really good year, obviously, they won a championship in I'd say outside probably five really not good years, and then one that was okay.

stuck with Bronnie?

Yeah

... 'cause they're good guys.

And sort of one of the more viral social media conversations we had, we were talking to Andrew Friedman, and, uh, we brought up...

I think the way we phrased the question was, "You know, people saying that you just spend all this money feel like it short-changes, you know, scouting, the work the players put in?" And he just lit up.

He's like...

It was like...

And it wasn't something that I pre-planned or anything, he was just almost like a, "Oh, thank you for asking me that." He said...

What the hell happened?

Yeah

... 'cause they're good guys.

And sort of one of the more viral social media conversations we had, we were talking to Andrew Friedman, and, uh, we brought up...

I think the way we phrased the question was, "You know, people saying that you just spend all this money feel like it short-changes, you know, scouting, the work the players put in?" And he just lit up.

He's like...

It was like- And it wasn't something that I pre-planned or anything, he was just almost like a, "Oh, thank you for asking me that." He said...

And he did not hold back, man.

What the hell happened?

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I'm wondering, before we get into the nuts and bolts of what these charges are, what is this current situation? Tell us about the disparity between the haves and have-nots in the age of NIL.

Yeah, the last, you know, you go back to the 50s, Michael, but, you know, I remember the mid-90s.

There was a huge one at Northwestern, and that was kind of, and that was obviously before legalized gambling, and it was done, you know, through much more sort of underground networks, you know, bookies and things like that.

This one, it just, it's so much easier now because everything, when it comes to sports gambling, is above board.

It's not... picking up your phone, a landline, and calling a 2-1-2 number and saying your number, 1-2-1-4, and then 10 times, that's what it used to be.

Now it's an app on your phone.

And so you mentioned the names, right? It's not Kentucky.

Is this going to ruin prize picks for me? Is all this gambling in sports organizations, is it going to ruin my ability to lose my money on ridiculous bets I know nothing about?

Whatever you want.

So I think it starts tomorrow, right? Even though, you know, the college football playoff has minimized these conference championship games, when you have the number one and the number two team in the nation, and Indiana has not won the Big Ten since 1958.

That is something, if you're not doing anything on Saturday at 5 p.m., that I would highly recommend checking into.

Because even though they're both going to be in the top four and they're both going to have a bye, that's going to be a highly charged game.

And that's going to mean a lot to Indiana to try to win that game and to set a tone for...

What might be the two best teams in football and college football, you know, and just kind of sending a message for their next meeting if that's what it comes down to.

So that's where I would start if that's okay.

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