Matt Leacock

And I just think that, I just think that from what I've seen, like, again, I'm such a fan of Roll Through the Ages.

I just think they r- uh, uh, Matt Leacock, I think, I think he just hit it with you got resources, you got different ways you can use them to d- a- and there's trade-offs, and it, it gets some really complicated concepts.

Um, and, and I think that's great, and there's just not enough.

So, like, there's that one, and I have not played, I have not played, uh, uh, Hadrian you said? What is it?

Hall of Fame member of not only our Discord, but as a librarian.

But she was able to meet Matt Leacock at a gaming event.

And Matt Leacock is the designer of Pandemic.

And a number of pandemic branch off games.

Michael and I are currently in the process of going through Forbidden Legacy, which is a co-design between Matt Leacock and Rob Davio.

And she also mentioned something that I thought was interesting that I kind of wanted to get your opinion on.

And it does warrant probably a deeper discussion at a later date.

So that's happening.

Uh, Ethnos in 2017.

Then he co-designed, uh, my favorite pandemic variant, Pandemic: Fall of Rome in 2018 with Matt Leacock.

The aforementioned Blitzkrieg! World War II in 20 minutes in 2019 as well.

The Pocket Battles line that he co-designed with Francesco Saracci- Saracci then became Battalion: War of the Ancients in 2024.

Tony Tran, who's, uh, uh, Tony Tran, the, the board game designer, not the TTRPG illustrator, uh, and I are putting an event together for Pax Unplugged in December in Philadelphia where, that's called These Games Are Not For Sale, and what we wanted to do was celebrate games that people created for the joy of making a game and cannot, for whatever reason, be commercialized or monetized.

And we have a number of folks, some of them very established in the industry, who made games that they don't, or, uh, don't want to or can't publish, such as, um, one game that, by Matt Leacock, who, he said, who has said that it has unconscionable amounts of plastic, so, like, does not want it published because there's no way to do it ethically.

Um, we have games that might have, as you know from, from publishing, like, liability-wise, you, it's really hard to put magnets in a game.

Yeah.

And let us know what you think about campaigns going on top of existing game systems.

Certainly a popular thing, and most of them are legacy, and most of them are Rob Daviau or Matt Leacock or somebody.

Sure.

Well, I think the reason we never say our email is because most people talk to us in the Discord.

Pandemic is OG.

Shout out Matt Leacock.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, Matt Leacock.

And listen, still doing it.

That system is still going strong.

I, I still love Daybreak.

The style of game that he makes happened to resonate or find a home with a lot of people, which is great.

You know, Matt Leacock, same.

You'll find stuff like Pandemic.

Wingspan's a good example.

I think.

Both of these games are by Matt Leacock.

You will see a lot of your typical pandemic elements in Animal Rescue Team.

This one, though, has a lot of cute little animals in it.