Matt Higgins

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Hey friends, welcome to episode 836 of Passion Struck.

Earlier this week, in my conversation with Nir Helavi, we explored how hierarchies, competition, and workplace cultures influence the way people treat one another.

Uh, I think, uh, there's a lot to be said.

There's a, uh, we had a, uh, I don't know if you ever saw the Matt Higgins interview, uh, on my other show, The Tech Leaders Playbook, and he was the author of the book Burn the Boats.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And it's a really, really good episode, and he basically is like, "Whatever you're doing, you just burn-- You, you have no option two.

Yeah.

I, uh, really successful people will often say, well, and one actually, a guy wr- I called Matt Higgins wrote a book, Burn the Boats, and his philosophy is literally if you have a backup plan-

Mm

... then the boat that you're sitting in becomes far less important to keep afloat because there is a way out.

And, and so for the first time in my life, there are what looks like it could be a plan B.

And, and I won't lie, there are weeks now on the golf course where if it doesn't go my way, you kind of, you, you resign yourself a little bit earlier to, to a potential fate.

So, um, I, you know, I, I subscribe to w- it was Matt Higgins you, you said there-

Yeah

And a lot less expensive.

So I spent $100,000 one time flying to Miami to do Mr. Ross, Matt Higgins, Mike Tannenbaum, do the Monday night football game, and Justin screwed up my audio.

So I ended up with $100,000 with a B-roll, which is why everybody's like, why do you have so much Miami shit in your intro to your speeches and your sizzle reel? I paid a lot of money for that.

I mean, just flying out five people, which is what it used to take to do what we're doing right now.