And what about accommodation? How have you gone about organising that? What have people done? Are you all sort of staying here where I'm meeting with you today or are there a few dotted around the place? How's that all kind of worked?

I should have envisaged at the start that, yeah, we could have quite a synced up sort of accommodation experience and that I could leverage off the group, which I did and went straight to suppliers to hopefully make it more affordable than, you know, travel companies being in the middle, albeit they have expertise in what they do, which I've certainly found out.

But those ticket delays, I think, as a learning, they made that a lot more difficult because it was until kind of early Feb when the tickets were finally, well, the payment was locked in and accepted, let alone that, you know, the physical tickets coming out maybe three weeks ago or, like you say, digital tickets.

So, yeah, that meant that far sort of less signed up.

So there's about 60 people who have done one of the three legs.

So we kind of had an LA leg, a road trip up, a 30-hour overnight train to Portland, to Finn Sermon's new hometown.

And then the final leg up here is eight days with five days in Vancouver and three days here.

Is this, um, enjoyable for you? Is it stressful for you? Is it both of those things for you?

Mm.

Um, and, and there's this, um, [lips smack] never really been the same kind of live football culture that there is in, in England or in South America, Europe, Asia, pretty much anywhere in the world.

So growing up as a kid, you know, I, I kind of saw it through a television at 3:00 a.m. in the morning and, um, you know, was, was always amazed by, by what football meant to people.

And so this, uh, yeah, I guess it's just been a, a project to try and grow passionate support for, for my own national team with, initially with my own friends, and then over kind of 16, 17 years now, it's, um, grown by default, I guess, in a way.

It's not, you know, it's not necessarily saying anything amazing about what, what we've done as a, as a group, but just by default, we're kind of the, um, supporters group for the, for the national team.

So, yeah.

All of a sudden gone from taking 32 friends down to a World Cup qualifier in 2009 to now allocating out 1,098 World Cup tickets, uh, pre-match venues with capacity of 1,000 plus, accommodation package.

Yeah