So when you, you were co-piloting there, did that immediately spark the, "I want to fly," uh, you know, "I want to, I want to do more of that, all that bush piloting?"

So yeah, the caravan operation that Susi Air operated was very much like an airline.

It operated, as I say, with captain and a co-pilot, so two pilots, and we would fly set routes.

They would generally be, you know, from a certain airport, there would be, you know, a dozen routes or so.

So you go out somewhere and come back again, very much like aircraft do in Europe, you know.

They fly between all the cities and only this would just be within Indonesia.

Um, but Papua's different.

... were catered for?

Is that kind of the short version?

Yeah.

I mean, that's the kind of short one.

I mean, I can give you a kind of expanded one.

Um, so yeah, as, as you kind of touched on there, I was in it.

That was kind of what I wanted to do through my teenage years.

Um, And this is kind of going back to the 90s now.

So you wrote the book and it's doing quite well, but you just kind of on a whim, like started to take your notes and compile it into the book?