Matt Crafton

[laughs]

It was our first time at Daytona, and Matt Crafton was, uh, driving the truck, and I'm like, "I'm gonna go, I'll go up there and spot," because we probably didn't have enough people.

So I went up there to spot, and about two laps in I was really interested in watching them dice, and I forgot I, what I was doing-

Just spotting.

And that's with having Ty Majewski driving for you the whole time.

That's with having Matt Crafton, not in his best years, but Matt Crafton driving for you the whole time.

And then Jake Garcia.

So it shows that he's got the ability.

So to actually check that box for me and my career is a big deal for me personally.

You're making your eighth postseason start, which ties Matt Crafton and Ben Rhodes for the longest of the active drivers or of really anybody that's been in the postseason.

So I'm curious if that experience is maybe something you'll lean on and it'll help you versus some of these younger drivers that haven't gone through something like this.

Granted, the chase format this year is new to a lot of people.