Mm

... and I see probably the best gig I have ever seen, maybe the best gig I will ever see, and it's one man on a stage with a guitar, and that's it, and he is utterly, utterly committed to his songs.

... for the Alzheimer's Research?

Yeah, for Alzheimer's Society.

We, um, we did a number of tours.

So this is in one of the outfits.

I've got four bands at the moment.

And one of the outfits, we, we went to, um, Scotland, we went to Barcelona, we went to-

So am I right in thinking, was it BBC Radio Solent, my neck of the woods? Is that where your sort of journalistic career started?

Yeah, that's right.

Well, I mean, I did a course.

I lived in Japan after university for three years.

I was a teacher there.

They got some bikes.

And then I came back, and I did a course in Portsmouth at Highbury College.

I know you waited until you were 30, but what was that like when you passed your bike test, that feeling?