Matike Mai Aotearoa

There's some really interesting stuff going on in places like Canada at the moment in terms of recognition of indigenous rights.

And a reference point that something that could guide us is this 2016 Mātike Mai constitutional inquiry chaired by Margaret Mutu and the late Mona Jackson.

And one of the things that Claire says is that, you know, if we changed our constitution, it could be pluralist.

And that's where it connects with what Ned Fletcher's saying.

Look, with Citizens' Assemblies and the conversation around tentativity, I think we have to be involved in how we design those conversations.

The recommendations from Matiki Mai, the next steps, were to further that conversation with the Crown and New Zealanders.

Take it to the people.

I don't want to...

And I do think there's been a lot of disillusionment and disenfranchisement and turning away from the possibility of a benevolent state or a benevolent crown will have lasting impacts and might bring about some harm because there is a possibility that the state and the crown can be wielded to do good.

And I don't think that we need to see the spheres of authority from Matike Mai as a zero-sum game.

So we often think the only way to bring about greater Māori political authority is to remove authority from the kāwanatanga sphere.

And I think that we could build both together.

What do we imagine our future to be? And I think that's what I'm wanting to see from our potential elected officials.

What are the aspirations for Aotearoa? I mentioned Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and I'd also like to mention Mātiki Mai, the constitutional transformation movement.

And what I would like to see for our future is a values-based human conversational consensus building type processes that lead us towards prioritising nature, prioritising people, protecting and promoting human rights, ensuring that we've got guardrails in our democratic system to protect, you know, to work towards open, transparent, fair governance systems.

Yeah, those are some of the

Um, how about this for lucky, lucky last from Wyoming? Uh, am at a dismantling the doctrine of discovery hui, and Moana was, uh, talked about today, too.

In his honor, do you support, uh, Matike Mai, and how would you protect Te Tiriti and move towards constitutional reform?

Up the Kiwis.

I just saw someone else, and I thought that was a really appropriate segue into that beautiful question.

Yes, I am proud that Greens have included upholding and con- and supporting the work of Matike Mai for three successive general elections.

Um, that we have been very clear that we will return the status of Te Tiriti into legislation and policy at its strongest status, that we will entrench, look to entrench Māori seats, um, and make the tribunal recommendations binding.

So we absolutely uphold the work of Matike Mai, which Moana Jackson was one of the beautiful leaders of.

Do you want to give us 60 seconds of what is Matike Mai? Because for some people watching, they might not have the full-

Is there any world in which your two parties could reach consensus on the role of Te Tiriti?

The only way you're going to do that is ensure that you fund the next phase of Matike Mai, which is about ensuring that there's a national conversation held about this.

The problem is that you've got parties standing here today that don't want a national conversation.

They're just making decisions based on the very small percentage that support.