Massachusetts v. EPA
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Oct 5, 2026
[25-170] Suncor Energy (U.S.A.) Inc. v. Commissioners of Boulder County
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38:29Amy Coney BarrettGUEST
And in the absence of congressional statute, federal common law is what governed.
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38:37Amy Coney BarrettGUEST
But now we have the Clean Air Act, and Massachusetts v. EPA interpreted 7411 to say that the EPA is the one that has the authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.
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38:48Amy Coney BarrettGUEST
So to the extent there is a national rule, Congress has given it to the EPA to set it.
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38:54Amy Coney BarrettGUEST
Now, I think where I would quibble with you is about where the state law comes in.
U.S. Supreme Court Suncor Energy (U.S.A) Inc. v. Commissioners of Boulder County, Case No. 25-170
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38:29Amy Coney BarrettPANELIST
And in the absence of congressional statute— Federal common law is what governed.
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38:37Amy Coney BarrettPANELIST
But now we have the Clean Air Act and Massachusetts v. EPA interpreted 7411 to say that the EPA is the one that has the authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.
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38:48Amy Coney BarrettPANELIST
So to the extent there is a national rule, Congress has given it to the EPA to set it.
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38:54Amy Coney BarrettPANELIST
Now, I think where I would quibble with you is about where the state law comes in.
Justice Alito Recuses From the Supreme Court’s Big Climate Case
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7:34Alicia FinleyGUEST
And the Trump administration is essentially arguing as much in a couple of other cases.
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7:39Alicia FinleyGUEST
So that's why I think ruling purely based on the AEP precedent would open up a can of worms and would be a little problematic, especially if the Supreme Court takes up another case in a couple of years to revisit Massachusetts v. EPA.
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7:54Alicia FinleyGUEST
Now, you raise another avenue that they could go, and I think this is probably the more compelling argument, is that the framers of the Constitution devised it such that one state could not control activity outside of its borders or that wholly occurs outside of its borders.
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8:12Alicia FinleyGUEST
And that is essentially what Boulder County and other states and localities that are suing these companies are trying to do.
598: The Surprising Benefits Of CO₂ And A Warmer Planet With Gregory Wrightstone
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43:00Kendall NelsonHOST
What was that?
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43:01Gregory WrightstoneGUEST
Yeah, it was called the – in 2008, the Obama EPA – well, actually, the Supreme Court said in the Massachusetts v. EPA ruling that CO2 could be listed as a pollutant.
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43:15Gregory WrightstoneGUEST
And the next year, 2009, the Obama EPA started that process.
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43:20Gregory WrightstoneGUEST
They said, well, CO2 is a pollutant, and we're going to regulate it, and might have they.
598: The Surprising Benefits Of CO₂ And A Warmer Planet With Gregory Wrightstone
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43:00Kendall NelsonHOST
What was that?
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43:01Gregory WrightstoneGUEST
Yeah, it was called the – in 2008, the Obama EPA – well, actually, the Supreme Court said in the Massachusetts v. EPA ruling that CO2 could be listed as a pollutant.
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43:15Gregory WrightstoneGUEST
And the next year, 2009, the Obama EPA started that process.
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43:20Gregory WrightstoneGUEST
They said, well, CO2 is a pollutant, and we're going to regulate it, and might have they.
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18:36Lynn GoldmanGUEST
So that's a possibility that there would be a delay through that.
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18:40Lynn GoldmanGUEST
I think one thing that a lot of us are focused on is the fact that it was several years ago that the U.S. Supreme Court in Massachusetts v. EPA made a decision that, indeed, EPA is authorized to regulate greenhouse gases and needed to do so.
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19:01Lynn GoldmanGUEST
and that spurred EPA into the process of making that happen.
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19:05Lynn GoldmanGUEST
Supreme Court now, I think industry may hope, might come up with a different decision.
Someday Isn't Imminent: Standing and Who Gets to Sue an Agency
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21:46Gwendolyn SavitzHOST
Massachusetts sued the EPA for refusing to regulate greenhouse gases, and the standing fight was the hard part of the case.
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21:52Gwendolyn SavitzHOST
In Massachusetts v. EPA in 2007, the court said the state was entitled to what it called special solicitude in the standing analysis.
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21:59Marc RoarkHOST
So treating the state as a different kind of plaintiff than a person or a company, that seems to have real doctrinal consequences.
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22:07Gwendolyn SavitzHOST
Yes.
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22:21Marc RoarkHOST
And the doctrine has been wrestling with whether that survives.
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22:25Gwendolyn SavitzHOST
Right.
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22:25Gwendolyn SavitzHOST
Lower courts have read it narrowly, and whether special solicitude survives at full strength is contested.
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22:30Gwendolyn SavitzHOST
So between Article 3, the zone of interest, associational standing, and the special solicitude for states, the rules pull in different directions.
The EPA’s power plant deregulation.
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25:13Ari WeitzmanHOST
In another, much more immediate way, Zeldin is wrong.
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25:16Ari WeitzmanHOST
According to Massachusetts v. EPA in 2007, greenhouse gases do fit the Clean Air Act's definition of air pollutants.
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25:24Ari WeitzmanHOST
That means the opinion of the Supreme Court is that the letter of the law here explicitly allows the EPA to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, thus the agency's 2009 endangerment finding.
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25:36Ari WeitzmanHOST
You may also remember that Zeldin has already rescinded the endangerment finding.
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8:46Steph TaiGUEST
So all of this is likely to be challenged in court, litigated all the way up to the Supreme Court.
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8:53Steph TaiGUEST
And the Supreme Court did say in Massachusetts v. EPA that carbon emissions can be regulated as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.
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9:06Steph TaiGUEST
And so what it would take to sort of remove that from the authority of the federal government would have to be, I think, a revisitation of Massachusetts versus EPA by the Supreme Court.
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9:16Steph TaiGUEST
And the Supreme Court is different from the Massachusetts versus EPA review.