Mass Save

Batteries, forget about it.

But, uh, MIT continued to advance at that, and it's really, really good to see some of the programs that they have and things that are actually available to anybody to really figure out h- you know, what to do with clean energy.

One of the things I'd like to highlight is something called the En-ROAD Climate Change Simulator, and, and here's a link to it.

You can fiddle around with it.

But that kind of brings in two other topics that have a big impact.

One is the, the local climate, you know, hot area or cold area, old houses, new houses, and then the second are the utility regulations towards batteries and, and solar in general.

In terms of sort of the local and utility regulations, I think one thing we're really running into in Mass is because you're getting most of your value, we have one particular program, but then there are a number of other programs in terms of battery subsidies, so we have a lot of...

I think the way Mass has decided to approach this is rather than taking sort of the slashing net metering approach, closer to trying to use houses as, you know, VPPs.

No, you gotta come home and jack it up.

So the, the bigger problem that we have is that we have inefficient systems, and that's why something like Mass Save is so important because they're trying to help people upgrade.

And the rebates and, and the tax credits for so long came in switching over to some of these other systems.

Like we talk about the solar tax credits, you know, that's, that's where people can save money, so those are the systems they're gonna gravitate toward.

I'm gonna do it." Uh, but if you don't, you know, that's a big number to look at to say, "I need to do this." So I think what we need is we need more programs.

Instead of, instead of all of this other stuff that they're trying to do, we need more programs where we can say, "Okay, you need five thousand dollars to switch over? Here's how it works." And you know how that program can work is you give me the five thousand dollars, uh, and I'm just using that number as a number.

But you give me that five thousand dollars to convert, or actually even better, just send somebody through Mass Save.

Have somebody come and do the installation for me, and then you charge me a surcharge on my energy usage for the next ten years.

That was four seconds.

When she was, when she was the, when she was the attorney general, there were two brothers who were Stoneham cops, the Ponzo brothers.

They stole $40 million from Mass Saves.

40 million bucks that came out of your utility bills, and she didn't...

She fell asleep.

How about that? You lost 40 million bucks and the, and it took the feds to nail them.

It took the feds.

You know, I mean, how about that? And you know, and, and did you see what just happened with, uh, Mass Saves? After the $40 million scandal with the Ponzos, they went to prison in Fort Dix, New Jersey.

"Electric use on a single account for a three-family, $437.

Surcharges, $623." Well, you know, the P- the Ponzo brothers, the Stoneham cops that made 40 million bucks off of, uh, Mass Saves That's, that's, that's the energy efficiency charge.

They should call it the Ponzo Brothers Charge so that they can have, uh, they can have mansions in, uh, ski chalets in New Hampshire, uh, Intercoastal Waterway, uh, uh, sh- resorts in Florida, a private airplane, all this stuff.

They ended up going to the can, but, you know, a year for 40 million bucks, I don't know.

75,000.

Nobody ever uses it.

But I'm gonna go with the, uh, energy efficiency, 'cause that's Mass Saves.

That just bugs the hell out of me, that they, those two cops stole 40 million bucks.

The Ponzo brothers, they were the ones who stole...

The, the cops from Stoneham who stole 40 million bucks from Mass Saves while, uh, Maura Healey and, uh, et al.

were asleep at the, uh, asleep at the switch.

So they're out.

You know, you mentioned the mainstream media here, how they don't want to report on anything.

Well, you know, locally, there was a big story about a week and a half ago where a contractor stole $8 million, allegedly, out of the Mass Save program.

Now, for those people who don't know what that is, that's a charge that's put on your bill today.

to put in heat pumps and do other work.