Right.

Okay.

But if you watch video, and I have video of perfect e- technique, when the ball's outside their shoulder, if you take your shoulder and rotate it at least 30 degrees or 45 perpendicular to the net, going out, and your hips rotate, so your toes are pointing outside the sideline.

Yeah, right there.

I'm a longtime coach, we all are here, but it's still a source of improvement for me, for sure.

Okay.

So to me, n- number nine kinda go-- To me, this all gets back to having a coaching philosophy.

So I'm gonna let them do things that make them successful, or creates margin for margin error, and I'm not gonna do things that make it harder for them to be successful.

[laughs]

I was, I was a professional banker for 10 years, and it's a funny story how the volleyball community is kinda small, is I had a friend of mine whose daughter played club volleyball in Stockton, California, and I had been a longtime youth basketball coach.

And so I went with his daughter just to watch him play, and I went to, John Dunning was running Stockton Volleyball Club.

He was the director.

He had two daughters in the club.

One of his daughters was 12, and the other one was 14.

And so they selected their teams, and he came up to the parents at the end of the tryouts.

Right.