Mary-Ellis Bunim

Oh.

And then from there they got to know me, and then they, M- Mary-Ellis Bunim, who was the head of Bunim/Murray with Jon- Jonathan Murray, they were both so amazing, but they recogni- they remembered or had heard that I was an, a reporter, and they said, "You know, casting for us is just interviewing.

Like, maybe you wanna give that a shot." And so I did Real World L- London.

London.