Wonderful.

Um, yeah.

So I don't know.

I mean, in, in that case, yes, 'cause I, I think that having that training just taught me how, how fun science can be and what great people scientists [laughs] are.

So it was really lovely.

Um, yeah.

And I think, so I think he played a big role just in my love of science, developing that love and that curiosity for science and all, all sorts of fun things.

Mm-hmm.