Martin Smith

I mean, it was Kim Walker Smith and yeah.

And Martin.

Martin Smith.

Yes.

And it was live in

And so, man, I'm always for these new artists coming through and shaking things up.

And I'm super grateful for them, just like John Mark shook things up, just like Martin Smith shook things up.

I think we're all kind of children of either Delirious or Switchfoot at this point.

But a question for you based off of your last kind of comment of the book, if you had a Mount Rushmore... of either theologians or books, what would your Mount Rushmore be?

Yeah.

And I was in a prayer meeting on this tour we were on with Martin Smith.

And he just led it.

And the room is filled with some of the most incredible worship leaders you can imagine.