Martin Keown

Uh, I think Ashley Williams was the first person I saw to do a proper analysis on it.

Um, the word judo throw had reached Martin Keown cleverly, shall we say, in TNT sport coverage.

And Mikel's, um, used those very same words, which tells me that's good, that we're all nicely aligned.

And then we have a situation with the United game where VARs come in, and with VAR there's an expectation at, of perfection obviously.

And obviously, the goalkeeper's got-

But the big question is, Mark, but the, but the big question is, Mark, is why, why can't VAR assistant referees see this? Is there a case, 'cause it was made on another conversation I was having earlier on with Martin Keown, about ex-players being-

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Gonna hear from Michael Carrick in a minute.

Martin Keown alongside Simon.

Martin, what's your, give us your perspective.

As a defender, how impacted are you from Enzo Fernández if, if you are Lisandro Martínez?

Let's

just forget Martin's punditry on Saturday night.

Friend of the pod.

Friend of the pod, Martin Keown, on Saturday night.

Absolutely sterling job.

Anyway, so the penalty... that was given, which basically involved Konza being wrestled to the ground and us conceding the penalty.

yeah it's it's like yeah it's like they're gaslighting the whole world it's watching watching that that that um it was ballard wasn't it ballard fouling concert And the angle was so clear.

And everyone said that compared it to Judo.

I don't know enough about him to know how many different positions he can play in, but I'm sure he managed at full-back and quite often players are filling in at either full-back or centre-back these days and it doesn't seem to bother them.

back in the old days, you know, you had Tony Adams and Martin Keown in the middle and you had two other fullbacks, Dixon and Winterburn, and nobody ever, none of them would ever think about playing in the opposite position.

You know, they would, a fullback would never play as a centre-back in those days.

And these days, they seem to swap at, you know, at will or at random.

I'll put it on the list, which is this.

When Arsenal were the old boring, boring, boring Arsenal, 1-0 to the Arsenal, Tony Adams and Martin Keown and Lee Dixon and Nigel Winterburn used to take one step forward, stick their hand up in the air and shout offside every two minutes.

Yeah.

Did football or soccer do anything in response? Because what he said was the NHL, there is a point to all this stuff.