Martin Gummer

Perhaps he could mistakenly for another MP, which, to be honest, is also highly likely.

New Zealand First's candidate Martin Gummer, the only candidate on stage who's never been a member of Parliament, told him Parliament's meant to be robust.

Much worse things are said in Parliament between different politicians, between MPs, and I think we've just got to move on.

Ranked 27th on New Zealand First's list, it's highly likely Martin Gummer will stay out of Parliament.

Paul Goldsmith will be hoping he's done everything he can to not be joining him next month.

So, but I don't want to go there because I don't want to get tied up in unnecessary expenses.

But, um, and then sort of, uh, the former chair of the New Zealand Young Nationals, Martin Gummer, um, who ran some-

Is that the same Martin Gummer that's on the list that's standing?

Yes.

Oh my God, really?