Martin Green

... right, and did things with them.

So [inhales] I went and, and was interviewed by Martin Green and Stuart Wenham for the, for a role to be the material scientist in their, in their new startup, and that was my entry to solar.

And it ticked all the boxes.

I was, I had the right skill set.

The cells are 26% that make a module of 25%, roughly.

Um, and the very best cells that they make are close to 27%.

The record that UNSW and Martin Green's team held at UNSW for 30 years for a centimeter squared cell was 25%.

So between roughly 1990 and 2015, they held the record at 25%, and 10 years later, they're routine in manufacturing in cells like this.