Martha Karua

And you tell me, because these are people who have been there in politics for a long time, reputable names, they've represented us in so many other different things overseas, because of my UN comments and anything, normally have a seat on the table to discuss like what we can invite you on.

Let's say somebody like Martha Karua, have you ever had her like address those topics?

This

is her video, Jan.

I don't want to complain because I get copyright strike quick, but she's dancing somewhere.

Not that she does not care about any Kenyan women.

Martha Karua has been fighting for people's rights, better situations, better leadership for over 30, 40 years.

30, 40 years.

Actually I told him...

No, actually, that 2,000 bob only accounted for, for, for what? For the book that I bought to read, the Martha Karua book, remember? So my Ubers for all the five times that I've met you to and fro my house, and my fuel, my time, all of that unaccounted for.

But then, um, so when he called me recently, 'cause I left it at, on good terms.

I was like, "Oh yeah, all the best on your podcast.

Yes, I think it was withdrawn because of lack of evidence, right? Yeah, there was a

press conference by Martha Karua, James Orengo, and I forget who else was at that press conference, where they were asking the ICC to monitor the developments in Kenya.

Yeah.

And if possible, da, da, da, da, find ways of reopening that case.