Marshall Teague

And I think that kind of tied nicely because I think by the time I was writing that book, we were talking about a lot and we were really getting to the depths of it.

And the research of the book was our podcast, so it was really great to kind of, um, just do it to explore it, and I was able to use some of the interviews with people like Marshall Teague and Pat Tallman as well in the book as well, which is fantastic.

Mm.

So we were able to get, you know, get extra flavor of what it's like to be on the show.

Oh, yes.

I mean, Pat Torme's been on the podcast three times.

We've had Peter Jurasik, we've had Marshall Teague on twice, we've had Peter Woodward who did Crusade, we've had Jason Carter, we've had Rick Kusotw who's one of the recurring extras on the show.

We just had all these wonderful guests, and I think one thing that was made really special for me is I feel like I understand the show more because the way they talk about the show.