Mark Waugh

Yeah.

And it was, as Mark Waugh described it, just throwing darts and hoping you hit the target-

Yeah

... with one, and that's, that's not the way to pick a national team.

hadn't played much cricket at all for 12 months not through any fault of his own it's not through any fault of his own that he got picked either so when we look at this and we criticize it we're not criticizing nick madison um and we're certainly not hoping that he fails or anything like that it's great to see him make that 48 and hopefully he plays in the second test and does well in that but I think the reason why criticism of this has been so widespread is that there is just a breathtaking absence of process in this.

And it was, as Mark Waugh described it, just throwing darts and hoping you hit the target with one.

And that's not the way to pick a national team.

But...

They're certainly in command.

I had a conversation with Mark Waugh about this this morning, that he feels that they're, they're a team...

They got an idea what they're doing.

They're not soft.

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Mark Waugh.

Yeah, yeah.

Mark Waugh was always known for making – I feel like Mark Wall was always known for making the difficult things look easy, whereas Steve Smith probably makes them look difficult, but they are difficult.

Not that he exaggerates anything.

The ones last night were.

Did you see him, Geordie? I did.

Where does he sit as all-time fielders now? As if slips cauldron into the pontings back in the day? Where does he? Mark Waugh.

Yeah, yeah.

Mark

We're also joined by one of Australian Musical Theater's busiest leading men, Ben Hall.

You'll know Ben from Neighbors as Ned Willis, from Warnie as Mark Waugh, and from the stages around the country in Pretty Woman and Elvis: A Musical Revolution.

He's now taking on another real-life figure and legend in music manager Glenn Wheatley, also in Whispering Jack, opening this November at the Roslyn Packer Theater.

Thank you again for, for joining us, and, um, congratulations.

But you were-

Yeah, we just wrapped up

... you've also played, you know, Sam Phillips, uh, from Elvis, Mark Waugh in Warnie.

You know, I guess with that kind of mix of playing real life characters versus, you know, your fictional work, do you, do you kind of have a preference?

Oh, I mean, Smithie's got to be up there.

Uh, I mean, uh, most people talk about Mark Waugh as well.

He, he, he was phenomenal.

Um, Tubby Taylor was very good at first.

In my time, and this is probably just an Australian lens, but Ricky Ponting still to me is maybe the best fieldsman I've seen.

Yeah, yeah, Ricky Ponting, Mark Waugh.

I think we had a couple come off the text line during the perspective.

Yeah, I