Mark Thomas

And she still works with comedians now.

She works with Mark Thomas a lot.

Okay,

wow.

yeah.

Do you know the comedian Mark Thomas? Yeah.

yes yeah

yeah he was on the podcast and he's doing a play at the moment and we had this exact same conversation uh about stand-up and and the theater and he was like you know i don't want to be i don't want to have a play or a stand-up routine that people are just sitting there politely applauding i want them to walk out feeling like they've been punched in the fucking stomach you know what i mean great i was like yeah yeah so it's the same in stand-up poetry the theater having that oomph because these these these um They're sort of almost considered to be highbrow arts, aren't they? Oftentimes.