So I know that you raised this as a concern, so I'm not saying that you're not thinking about this, but help me understand how sustainability or how transition happens in that context, that atmosphere.

And also, it's not just the US.

I mean, European, UK, other Asian funders and implementers have also been keen on this and the Global Fund.

It's not just Global Fund, PEPFAR, and other programs only insist on it.

They've actually funded community-based delivery because of that last issue that people are reticent to go.

It's also why we failed with young men.

Young men, I don't care what, they're never going to go to a clinic.

And then what does the government

Yeah

... what we've kind of been looking at.

You know, this amount of money's gone down.

Kaiser just published two point one billion less in global funding.

So let me tell you a really important anecdote And then from that, drive out a little bit more.

Where, where, where I've been spending most of my time in the last, um, 18 months and really, uh, since I've been at Georgetown, is supporting countries, uh, to really have their sovereignty to move forward to, to achieve what they want to achieve.

And in this moment, they, as you pointed out, they actually do see opportunity, um, to, to do that.

... you know, big picture, how do you think about the technology component of this?