Mark Matlock

[lion roars] Hi, I'm Paul Louis Cole, and this is the Brave Men podcast.

Fired up that you're here with us because one of the most interesting men that's a friend of mine is Mark Matlock, and Mark is here today.

Uh, this guy's the executive director for Urbana with InterVarsity.

He's a fellow with, uh, Barna Research.

It's a powerful conversation.

Thanks for being here today.

Here's Mark Matlock on Brave Men.

You know, one of the things that, that really attracted me, uh, to you before I ever met you was the book you wrote, Faith for Exiles, so, which I had a hard copy of, you know? And now I'm sitting with the famous author.