Mark Hoffman

Oh boy, I'm glad you asked.

Detective-slash-double-secret-apprentice Mark Hoffman gets a promotion and public commendation after the events of Saw IV, and all Special Agent Peter Strom got was a jigsaw trap and a t-shirt he won't wear.

Special Agent Erickson takes the jigsaw case over after Strom's survival, and Special Agent Perez probably succumbs to a face full of porcelain.

As Strom goes back to the beginning to find the proof that Hoffman is Jigsaw's heir apparent, a new game begins with five people all involved in a criminal land grab.

It soon becomes a cat and mouse game between Hoffman and Strom, where only one will survive.

Live or die,

place your bets.

it does say yes it's his directorial debut and you you can kind of tell there's it doesn't have the style it doesn't have the panache i guess of the previous four saw movies it feels very rushed this is a tight 90 like this thing is quick yeah this thing is over in a

On top of that, there's another ongoing storyline that, again, I don't think is going to get continued from Saw X with Cecilia Peterson, who is still alive, still maybe out there somewhere doing her thing.

And I think, you know, John Kramer should probably go after her again with Detective Hoffman.

So I don't know.

There's threads in this universe that I would like to see continued.

So what happened with Saw V? Because, Brandon, I was actually talking to you yesterday, and I think this is my biggest complaint about it, is I said, I feel like Saw V forgot that it was a Saw movie, and then they were like, oh shit, people want traps and stuff.

Let's throw in also a little trap plot that has next to nothing to do with the rest of the movie, so we can go on our Detective Hoffman police caper that we're doing.

Honestly, what I think happened after Darren Balsman left to go do repo and stuff like that, and they had the new writers and stuff.

It feels like the new writers were like, OK, we're going to start this and not have any idea where it's going to go.

All of these people do not matter.

You could have, and don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have liked it because it wouldn't have felt soft, but you could have released this movie with none of that.

And literally the whole plot, you can tell their focus is just on Hoffman and Strom.

They don't care about these people at all to the point, I know I'm jumping ahead, but when we get our big Hello Zep reveals at the end, not one of them has to deal with the people in the trap.

There's no Amanda.

There's no detective Hoffman.

There's none of that shit.

Yeah.

Now it's time to catch up with two more of our

old friends, Jigsaw's ex-wife Jill and her arch-nemesis, Detective Hoffman.

After witnessing Hoffman survive the reverse bear trap at the end of their last encounter, she managed to hide while he escaped and stitched himself up in an abandoned building.

But she knows that it's only a matter of time before he comes back for revenge.

Fearing his eventual return, she goes down to the police department and meets with sunflower seed enthusiast Officer Matt Gibson from Internal Affairs.

She's ready to spill the beans on Hoffman's connection with the Jigsaw killings, giving them all the details that they'll need to crack the case.

but before she tells them anything else, she wants their full protection.

And believe me, she's gonna need it.

Saw 11 was shortly announced thereafter, and they even released a poster with a release date on it.

No one can say for certain what the original version of this film was going to look like, but I'm guessing it would have followed Detective Hoffman and John Kramer going after Cecilia Peterson again.

You can't tell me that little post-credits scene wasn't setting up more for that whole timeline.

This version was also written by Saw alumni Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton, but sadly, that script has been tossed aside off the pier of the unnamed city that all of this madness takes place in.

You don't have to pose for it again.

Uh, Detective Mark Hoffman for five.

They're gonna have a Black guy play C.S. Lewis and have him do a Stan Lee cameo and go, "Oh, hell no, shit."

That would be awful.

It happens.

I used to I love buffets.

Uh, Detective Mark Hoffman, "How does this compare with, to Red Dawn or Death Wish?" More brutal.

Yeah, it's more brutal than both of them.

Otherwise, like the brain trust is the same.

It's the same three producers, Hoffman, Kuhls, and Berg as always.

It's Melton and Dunstan.

It's Twisted Pictures.

Tobin Bell, of course.

Costas Mandalore.

Detective Hoffman, still around.

Betsy Russell.