Mark Gungor

Now, here's one of the things I want to point out.

And I remember us hearing this years ago from, I think it was Mark Gungor on one of the things that we're listening to from him.

He talked about men and women, if you're fighting about sex, consider it blessed.

Yeah.

You get frustrated with each other.

But I also, there was a gentleman, his name is Pastor Mark Gungor of, was it Celebration Church out in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

And he does a marriage conference called Laugh Your Way to a Better Marriage.

It's wonderful.