Mark Gordon

But I told him about a, a child abduction and what I did and how we recovered this kid after it all looked very hopeless.

He called Mark Gordon and, uh, said, "I'll do the show, but you gotta meet this guy, Jim." So they flew me out and, uh, and I, I started, uh, telling them stories of my cases, and the writers are furiously writing down everything.

And then, so the first about five seasons, I was a tech advisor on the show, and then the second season, I wrote my first episode.

And, and then when I retired five years later, I went on full-time as a writer-producer.

I meant to look him up.

So they've made a deal with Graeme Yost for his next script, later revealed to be Broken Arrow, and also produced by Speed producer Mark Gordon.

So this would have been a good film to have watched beforehand, potentially, Speed.

Again, I haven't seen that for a long, long time.

Mark, obviously, it was a couple of months ago now.

We've not done loads of Italy, but we did do an episode with Mark Gordon that wrote the book on Roberto Baggio.

For those that didn't listen to that episode, Roberto Baggio is Mark's footballing hero, so that was really fun to do.

And obviously, we've mentioned Italia 90 a lot, Mark, because you're a bit older than me, and I know you're a bit older than Luke as well, who I'm a bit older than.