Mark Bourrie

You get a good sense of the era.

So they're on their little rogue mission, and Mark Bourrie said basically their goal was to cut out the middlemen, like the Ottawa, and work directly with the Sioux and Cree.

Mm-hmm.

Kind of reshape fur trading-

Yes.

Two of Canada's best historians, Marc Bourrie and Charlotte Gray, have written some scathing things about Library and Archives Canada.

I just want to sample a few of them.

And I can say they're both friends of Libraries and Archives Canada.