Mark Binskin

Uh, Newman refused the family, uh, of any apology, and then he spoke of Australians as haters, essentially.

Please understand that Israel had no intention, as Binskin himself said, Israel had no intention to, uh, attack or injure in any way the aid workers that were on the convoy.

There's a circumstantial situation which led to a tragic mistake.

Can you walk us through this, uh, the lead-up to that, to that, uh, marathon? And I wanna ask you, is this two events, or was that one in the eyes of the Israeli? Um, uh, y- dropping that information in the lead-up to the event and then the event itself.

Um, and what comes from there is a series of investigations and now this ultimate decision.

Australia had its own review led by Mark Binskin, the former military leader.

He didn't have access to very much material, and the Australian government is still pushing for more information about exactly what happened.

And I think that kind of is where we're at in terms of the deadlock on investigations and official information about the deaths.