Marion Nestle

coming up.

Anna LePay is going to be there along with Marion Nestle.

And it's entitled the Soda Tax Food Systems and Community Health Program.

Here it's going to be at the Broward Center, David Brower Center, 6 p.m. to 7.30 on Wednesday, October 14th.

That preference for clarity over restriction is already showing up in federal policy.

Writing in the American Journal of Public Health, nutrition scientist Marion Nestle noted that the newest dietary guidelines advised people to limit highly processed foods, a first since the guidelines began in 1980.

The document avoided the word ultra-processed entirely.

Nestle calls highly processed a euphemism adopted because no consensus definition exists.

Of course.

And so I'm talking about who's shaping that message? Who is driving what we believe at a societal level about food? And I want to give a major homage to Michael Pollan and Marion Nestle, whose books I read when I was in school, because that was the first time my eyes were really opened to food politics.

And I was made aware of these influences as a very young person studying nutrition.

So Michael Pollan has great documentaries he's done about this, Food Inc., and more recently, Food Inc. 2.0. Like just last year was so good.

And Marion Nestle's a food scientist and very famous food scientist in New York who's written a lot of books about this.

So anyway, so I'm going to start with first with something that most people have never heard of.

In the United States, there's a system called a checkoff program.

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We, Kate and I, had Marion Nestle on the podcast not long ago for her memoir, Slow Cooked.

She's an incredibly prolific author.

She's written more than 20 books, including the all important Food Politics, which was groundbreaking, but also Soda Politics, and What to Eat, and all kinds of really amazing stuff.

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Stay tuned for more from me and Kate and Marion Nestle.

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And so, you know, it's sort of a, a larger project of making more of the wealth in this country available to people to meet their basic needs in dignified ways rather than sort of just being held in the hands of these, like, couple hundred insanely wealthy people.

people.I, I so agree with you that this vision of how the farm bill could really help us out in a much bigger way, and I love how Marion Nestle was like, "This isn't revolutionary.

We are already putting billions of dollars into one system.

Let's talk about putting it into the system that we really want." And two programs that were part of the Inflation Reduction Act were the local food school, Local Food for Schools, and the LF- Local Food Promotion Act, LFPA.

But the philosophical aspect is it's trying to draw out the general principles.

Marion Nestle is written about food politics.

She has exposed some of the worst excesses of food.

corporations around the world, you know, she's not blind to them.

So what do you think about that? I, you know, people...

I interviewed Marion Nestle, and she was one of the first people to be called a, you know, a handmaiden of the, of the nanny state.

Like, how dare you tell me what to eat? A- and of course, I would say, "Well, these other professionals are telling you what to eat, and they're succeeding at it 'cause you're eating it."

Mm-hmm.

My name is Paul Trammell, and this is the podcast where I interview extraordinary people who make their own rules, who chase their own dreams, who live life by their own design, and who achieve extraordinary things.

I've got a great interview for you today with Marion Nestle.

Dr. Marion Nestle is Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health Emerita at New York University.

She chaired that position from '88 to 2003 and retired in '17.

She's also Visiting Professor of Nutritional Sciences at Cornell.

All of that helps, and I appreciate it greatly.

Now, let's get to it.

This is my interview with Dr. Marion Nestle.

I'm your host, Eliza Barbanell.

Dr. Marion Nestle is a renowned nutritionist who has been shaping food policy for over half a century.

She co-founded NYU's groundbreaking food studies program in the '90s, and has published over 16 books, including her newest, Sugar Coated: Unboxing the Hidden Forces Shaping America's Favorite Breakfast Food.

Today on the show, she weighs in on the many buzzy topics in the food world today.

Think highly processed foods, fiber and protein maxing, dramatic evolution of food culture, and how her cereal box collection inspired this new book.

Marion Nestle, this is Taste.

Thank you for coming on the podcast.

Glad to be here.

So they've built up this parasocial relationship, and then leads into authority bias.

And I was on a panel recently with Naomi Oreskes, who wrote Merchants of Doubt about the tobacco industry, and Marion Nestle, you know, with her work around the, the food industry.

And there, there were playbooks that they explored and ex- they exposed and they explored in those books.

There's also a social media playbook, and that's, that's different to what we know of, uh, with the tobacco industry.