Mario Testino

And when I... did Jennifer Aniston's makeup for the first time.

It was for a cover of Vogue, American Vogue, with Mario Testino and she was on the beach

and...

I remember that cover.

Oh, my God.

That trick of like...

I remember actually, well, I guess I learned to perfect that with, between Peter Lindbergh and Mario Testino, but just, you know, you put it on and then you squint your eyes.

Brown eyeliner is so pretty too.

From there, it was off to Fashion Week in Paris and the men's spring-summer show in Milan, and the full pop star makeover was in effect.

Gucci, Balmain, runways with Luke Savard from Marcelo Burlon and VLONE, Cartier ice around his neck, the paparazzi and the photographers from Vogue, Elle, and Harper snapping pics, video crew following him around, journalists hounding him, blow-up pieces in GQ and V Magazine with renowned Peruvian photographer Mario Testino behind the lens.

It was silly, sure, he knew that as he waited his turn backstage to catwalk the runway mugging for the cameras, but damn if it didn't feel good.

He knew he was destined for this, this type of stardom, the kind that leaves a permanent mark, the kind that has a way of not washing off.

And then from there, leapfrog, and I don't know how far we wanna fast-forward, but then there was Oroton, there was Condé Nast, there was my own consultancy.

Westfield came along, um, and then leading a branding agency, getting to work with big retailers all around the world, um, and some of the best in the business at the time, like Mario Testino, the photographer, um, Kate Moss modeling for Luxottica, so they were our big client in Milan.

And it w- part of it was building things, taking customers and people on a journey to just do things differently, shake things up.

And, you know, when I took over the brand agency, I was in the red traffic light list.

Yes, it was critically and commercially successful, but I just think over the years it's just grown and grown into something much bigger.

together with Madonna's stunning music videos and the iconic artwork taken by photographer Mario Testino.

It's just the icing on the cake.

The turquoise vinyl raincoat by Dolce & Gabbana that Madonna wears in the artwork is simply stunning and her image is slightly softer.

But, you know, I did, I met Jennifer Aniston, and at that exact time that, that, like, uh, Jennifer Aniston and all those, the cast of Friends was becoming, uh, famous, they were also ending up, like Gwyneth Paltrow and Sarah Jessica Parker, all ending up on the cover of fashion magazines all of the sudden.

So that whole '90s moment, celebrity, model, fashion all converged, and the next thing you know, we're doing Jennifer Aniston like a supermodel on the cover of W Magazine, shot by Mario Testino.

I know that magazine.

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