Mario Condello

by a former police officer called Brian Francis Murphy, who'd been a legend in Victoria Police from the 50s through to the 80s, and he was one of the toughest men I ever met.

And he knew all the Carlton crew, and he was introducing me to Gatto and Mario Condello and all these sorts of people, and egging me on, egging me on.

I didn't need much egging on.

And there were times when I'd get phone calls in the middle of the night because I got so deep into this, talking to people day and night, and people began to become leery of me.

But the jury was told that he did.

So mix on remand there for the murder of Benji.

And at this time, Mario Condello, Mario Rocco Condello had taken over the Carlton crew.

And he was tasked with finding a way to stop Carl Williams.