MARINA

It was so fucking cold.

I don't even like to hear the word marina.

You better be talking about Marina and the Diamonds.

What? No, Del Rey, girl.

It's a place to be.

I liked emo music.

And when I did get into pop, it was more alt-pops like Lana Del Rey, Marina and the Diamonds, that kind of thing.

So I would say Reputation is the first album that I was like really excited about.

Me too.

Sophie Lopez, she is now Kate Hudson's stylist, Goldie Hawn's daughter, and she is the coolest.

She was Little Mix's stylist at that time, and she put Little Mix in my stuff so many times, like award ceremonies, and then there was Jessie J, then Pixie Lott, and then And then Marina and the Diamonds, she was going on tour to support Katy Perry.

She asked me to design her tour outfits.

I've not been able to design a new collection or put something much near stuff out more than one thing at a time because it's that busy where it's like, and it's a good place to be, but it makes you think, how much busier can I be? But I don't have the people around me to help me do this.

So I had a lot, I just, it just wasn't on my radar.

I just thought I'm going to go to London and work for someone.

I mean, I'd been to LA, I'd been to Paris, I'd have been a London intern and, but so I couldn't go and intern again after all that year of doing it so I had to do what I had to do but then people started getting in touch with me so like I had this blog online blog where I put my degree show collection and then like stylists would I don't know how they found me but they did it was like Sophie Lopez she is now Kate Hudson's stylist Goldie Hawn's daughter and she is the coolest so she was Little Mix's stylist at that time and she put Little Mix in my stuff so many times like award ceremonies and then there was Jessie Jane and Pixie Law and then all these girl bands at that time that were really famous were coming in touch getting in touch and then Marina and the Diamonds she was going on tour to support Katy Perry she asked me to design her tour outfit so it just started getting like it just happened and it wasn't through intention it was like just continuing to make these dresses like i'd sit on my mom's kitchen table and and set and make these house and i still say that my mom and my mom's with my four little sisters like making these dresses and then like all these famous people were made of my clothes it was absolutely crazy so that was the beginning of all kind of thing

what how do you think you've found like your creative identity because

I mean, high school a little bit, but Tumblr really took off and became a big thing for a while.

So brought me, and I would say both of these artists might not have a career without Tumblr, but Halsey and Marina and the Diamonds.

Are you guys familiar? Hell yeah.

Okay.

I love that.

And lyrically, it's very much about I'm kind of messed up, and I'm a little depressed, but also at the same time, I have this hard armor because of all that, and you also can't hurt me 'cause of this armor that I've put up.

And then Marina and the Diamonds, specifically her Electra Heart album was 2012, and that album is...

It is like a concept album.

We could do the sign.

Marina and the Diamonds.

Yeah.

Jack White.