Mm.

Um, and at the time when we met, I was actually traveling from New York to Florida and back with the racehorses seasonally, and I had decided that that wasn't something that I wanted to do long term.

It wasn't anything that really fit my- Lifestyle or personality and, um, I had always ridden stock horses a little bit.

My grandmother, uh, showed some horses with Teddy Robinson, and she lived out in California and so when I had made the decision to move out that way and kind of pursue that a little bit more, um, I kind of changed directions [laughs] entirely and really kind of focused myself on, uh, a stock horse.

Uh, they were always there in the background and I just decided I wanted them to be the main focus.

So when I got out to California is when Johnny and I got together and we really kind of just started doing a little bit of everything.

So but my horse background is a little bit ambiguous, 'cause it kind of skipped a generation.

Yeah.