Maria Snegovaya

I'm Max Bergmann, director of the Stewart Center and Europe-Russia-Eurasia program at CSIS.

And I'm Maria Snegovaya, senior fellow for Russia and Eurasia.

And you're listening to Russian Roulette, a podcast discussing all things Russia and Eurasia from the Center for Strategic International Studies.

[upbeat music] We Shall Outlast Them: Putin's Campaign to Defeat the West.

That's the title of the new book from Hanna Notte, and the topic of today's discussion.

Uh, I'm Max Bergmann, and I'm thrilled to be joined by my, uh, colleague as always, the co-host of Russian Roulette, Maria Snegovaya.

Uh, and we're coming to you live from the Brack Studio here in Washington, DC at CSIS headquarters.

And we're joined by a special guest, Hanna Notte, the author of We Shall Outlast Them: Putin's Global Campaign to Defeat the West.