Margaret White

the back of her head and

i'm like that stuff yeah i get i like not that i see what the plan is from this but i'm like i get that's probably what the multiple season thing is but anyway like seeing how they've expanded this for a season of tv beyond what i know about the book like all the stuff about you know using social media margaret white having her own instagram account where she's like you know kind of fighting red Yeah, Margaret Redd.

It's interesting.

It's interesting, and I'm chewing on it, and it's one of those things where I'm very aware now that some people will probably really not like what they're doing with this.

So yeah, I'm very compelled and I'm still chewing on the idea again, that like, I think it, it makes sense with how they've drawn, especially Margaret, that she might be sort of drawn to this platform that she is amassed and this new kind of power to espouse her views onto the world.

Um, it's one of those things where, like, that's a big choice.

You know, it's like in some versions I'd be like, I don't imagine any version of Margaret White ever wanting to even touch the devil machine and go online.

But, you know, I think they do interesting stuff with her and that there are times when she's right.

No.

I d- I'm not expecting to really give a damn about Margaret White.

But I think again, even just with the way that they introduce both of them hiding in this closet, and then to see not only how Carrie's having to adjust to the world, but also having to see how Margaret is adjusting to the world.

Yeah.

What a wild concept, what a wild moment this is.

I want a Carrie that my daughter can watch, right, and understand and relate to.

I want a Carrie that my friends' kids in high school right now can relate to.

And it's not just the social media, but it's the nuances between that, right? We've talked a bit about, like, you know, how Margaret White is experiencing this world as she comes out.

Mm-hmm.

Um, her mother, Margaret White, the domineering religious mom, played here by Samantha Sloyan, who has worked with Mike Flanagan before.

She was just in The Life of Chuck.

Okay.

I think so.

I definitely think so.

Allison Janney won Best Supporting Actress Oscar for playing Tonya's mother, LaVona.

Sebastian Stan is, uh, her husband.

First and foremost, the thing about Carrie that I think I underestimated was just how better served this concept and story is by a limited series.

We get so much more from these characters, especially from Margaret White, who is Carrie's mom, played by Samantha Sloyan, especially getting to see and understand and feel for Carrie as a teenage girl in a way that absolutely the 2015 adaptation of Carrie just bombed and missed for me.

Sorry to Julianne Moore and Chloe Grace Moretz.

I actually re-watched it in anticipation of all of this just to get my head fresh in the world of Carrie, and I forgot how bad [laughs] that movie is.

So we got Piper Laurie.

We got Margaret White.

One of King's scariest villains in a lot of ways.

on the page and in De Palma's story.

Julianne, what do you think about her? And I'm not sure, like...

I feel like a lot of what she ends up doing is in later episodes.

But are you sold on this version of Margaret White based on what you've seen so far?

not sold yet because i think it's been so quiet so far i think as you said to do piper laurie is so hard like and she starts off at like an 11 and then goes to a 25 and it's glorious and you love it um so i think this starts a lot quieter and more subtle and i think even quieter and more subtle than the book is and i think part of that is the father being alive is like it feels like there was there was more this traditional nuclear family a little bit like weird different but a little more under uh relatable understandable um so it's starting quiet but i'm excited to see where it goes yeah you know because i think we've seen that she can do amazing amazing things and she can take it in all directions you know so like i just think the first episode is very like we're building slowly we're building slowly which i like i do too

It became a different character, and all of a sudden it was like, well, our Carrie's the opposite of the Carrie we expect.

Our Margaret is not the Margaret that we've seen and, and understood.

This is a woman driven by love-

Yeah

One of the most heartbreaking characters for me is Chris Hargensen's mother, played by Heather Graham.

Yeah.

Because she's trying to help her child in the same way that Margaret's trying to help Carrie, and they just...

Well, I don't wanna say they're doing it badly, because I think Chris' mother really does try, but she's obviously made some mistakes.

So her body's going through changes, and those changes are triggering telekinetic powers that, um, she is beginning to become in touch with and sort of, throughout the film, better understand and mostly try to suppress.

But as she is both being targeted by kids at school and then, you know, what we also come to see is that her mother, Margaret White, is just a sh- what you might call a piece of work.

Um-

[laughs]

I think we'll probably talk a lot a bit about how this movie approaches and explores ideas around sexuality, and, like, power, and how, like, if that is monstrous.

But I think what is interesting is that it shows sexuality on this very, uh, like, this broad spectrum.

Like, we have on one end the incredibly repressed Margaret White.

On the other end, we have Chris, who is, like, understands sexuality as, like, as a social capital and power.